There are lots of countries that provide oil. It does have uses. However, maybe we could charge a duty on imports from any country whose GDP was >20% from oil.
@Johan Empa Fat boy --dictator extraordinaire-- is traveling on his personal train to make the most of the buffet, sauna, and cinema carriages. Not because he has the climate in mind. 🙃
'There are believed to be at least 90 high-security carriages at the leader’s disposal, according to a 2009 South Korea news report that relied on classified information. According to the report, written during the era of Mr. Kim’s father, Kim Jong-il, three trains operate each time the leader travels: an advance security train, the leader’s train and a third carrying additional bodyguards and supplies.'
[Johna, this is the second time in a few month that I'm replying to a thread of yours that seems to glorify North Korea! What's going on?]
Even when he travels by rail, achieved energy usage *per passenger* is going to be pretty bad in this case, so it's a far cry from this being "good for climate". 😉
@NatureMC Maybe it's diesel, I haven't researched it nor done any calculations. It's off topic to speak about who he is, we're just comparing private jet with private train here. It's not about politics, it's about train vs airplane for state visits.
the main energy source in NK is coal combustion. You can’t possibly take the example 3 trains for 1 person and saying is climate friendly. The man doesn’t give 2 cents about climate. 3 trains for 1 person. Glorifying a man that starves his own people and kills their family for reading a book, is definitely not the climate positive take you think it is.
Johan Empa
in reply to Johan Empa • • •Imagine if the British prime minister had a private train.
Why is he even hopping around the UK in a noisy helicopter when he can go by train?
#UK #train
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Johan Empa
in reply to Mathias Micheel • • •Shaun McDonald
in reply to Mathias Micheel • • •The queen used to take a public train with a carriage or two for their private use. An electric one too.
Queen travels by train to Norfolk for Christmas
BBC NewsJohan Empa
in reply to Shaun McDonald • • •That's the best way to do it. Reserve a whole carriage or two on a regular train. It's secure enough in most cases.
@buerviper
Mathias Micheel
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in reply to Johan Empa • • •Don't get me started!
There are lots of countries that provide oil. It does have uses. However, maybe we could charge a duty on imports from any country whose GDP was >20% from oil.
Never going to happen, is it?
Andy H3
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in reply to Johan Empa • •@Johan Empa @Petra van Cronenburg He travels in a convoy of three trains!
'There are believed to be at least 90 high-security carriages at the leader’s disposal, according to a 2009 South Korea news report that relied on classified information. According to the report, written during the era of Mr. Kim’s father, Kim Jong-il, three trains operate each time the leader travels: an advance security train, the leader’s train and a third carrying additional bodyguards and supplies.'
[Johna, this is the second time in a few month that I'm replying to a thread of yours that seems to glorify North Korea! What's going on?]
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Johan Empa
in reply to Andy H3 • • •@andy
Not glorifying anything here, except train travel
@NatureMC
Andy H3
in reply to Johan Empa • •Gasper Zejn
in reply to Johan Empa • • •@andy @NatureMC
Even when he travels by rail, achieved energy usage *per passenger* is going to be pretty bad in this case, so it's a far cry from this being "good for climate". 😉
Johan Empa
Unknown parent • • •@NatureMC
Maybe it's diesel, I haven't researched it nor done any calculations. It's off topic to speak about who he is, we're just comparing private jet with private train here. It's not about politics, it's about train vs airplane for state visits.
@andy
Gasper Zejn
in reply to Gasper Zejn • • •@andy @NatureMC
It might even be more climate friendly if he was using a small passenger plane.
Andy H3
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